Here is a summary of our home circle.
Home circle held on 16th December 2014.
In this which was to be the last séance investigation of 2014, the room was checked and prepped, the lights were turned off and members started what was to be a memorable séance in both the heart and awareness of the sitters.
The séance began with a white mist which appeared in the room. There was no explanation for it but it was tangible, it had a cool feel and it caused a wet sense to be felt by many of the sitters. There were unexplained taps on the walls from the inside of the séance and the orbs of which many of the members were claiming to have noted, could be visibly seen by all the sitters, the small disks of light were blue and were noted at two points in the séance.
The medium started to talk of a male spirit, someone called Frederick Engles, and that he was the second male spirit in the room at that time. The first had not come into her awareness so as she could not refer to a name but this man was easier to note at that minute. He was someone who loved to talk, to note observations on why things occurred, he was a scientific person and he talked of historical aims. After research it is believed Friedrich Engels (28 November 1820 – 5 August 1895) was the man noted by the medium in the séance, he was a political theorist, German social scientist, author, philosopher, and father of Marxist theory, together with Karl Marx. It was in 1845 he published The Condition of the Working Class in England, based on personal observations and research in Manchester. He was someone who investigated and then researched the condition of man.
In 1848 Engels co-authored The Communist Manifesto with Karl Marx, though he also authored and co-authored many other works although mainly with Marx, and later he supported Marx, aiming to help him financially to do research and write Das Kapital.
After Marx’s death, Engels edited the second and third volumes, this was an important stage. Additionally, Engels organized Marx’s notes on the “Theories of Surplus Value,” which he later published as the “fourth volume” of Capital. It is felt he was the man in the séance, his interests as well as his love of working in scientific methods to established thought along with his birth date validated. He has also made important contributions to family economics.
The séance did appear cool as the medium started to speak about a second male spirit, this she said, was the first man who had appeared in the séance but he was only then referring to his love of England.
The male spirit spoke on England, he referred to the date in December in which he spoke with all his feelings on the state of England, his aims and his right to purvey his ideas about what England could be. He spoke in a male voice and as he did the members claimed feeling as if someone was walking in the room, there was a noise of footfall and a strong smell of a musty scent. On 24th December 1545, it was King Henry VIII made his final speech to Parliament and his speech is the one believed to be the referred event in the séance. The historian Robert Hutchinson describes it as “both measured and compelling”, and writes of how Henry wanted “to impart a stern message” to all of his subjects. The King wanted to address Parliament instead of anyone else and in the spirit circle the spirit of the one who made a speech stated that he loved his land and his peoples.
In this speech, of which was researched because of the information noted in the séance, Henry VIII chastised the Lords and the Commons for the divisions which regarded religion. The full speech is in the appendix of Volume I of “Dodd’s Church History of England from the Commencement of the Sixteenth Century to the Revolution in 1688″.
I have included parts of what was noted historically as reported speech from Henry VIII as I felt that it was relevant to the message which had been linked to Henry VIII in the séance. He was insistent and validated about the date. The speech saw Henry VIII saying:
“Yet, although I with you, and you with me, be in this perfect love and concord, this friendly amity cannot continue, except you, my lords temporal, and you my lords spiritual, and you my loving subjects, study and take pains to amend one thing, which is surely amiss, and far out of order, to the which I most heartily require you; which is, that charity and concord is not among you, but discord and dissension beareth rule, in every place. St. Paul saith to the Corinthians, in the thirteenth chapter, charity is gentle, charity is not envious, charity is not proud, and so forth, in the said chapter. Behold then what love and charity is amongst you, when the one calleth the other heretic and anabaptist, and he calleth him again, papist, hypocrite, and pharisee. Be these tokens of charity amongst you? Are these the signs of fraternal love between you? No, no. I assure you, that this lack of charity amongst yourselves will be the hindrance and assuaging of the fervent love between us, as I said before, except this wound be salved, and clearly made whole.”
Henry VIII then moved on to addressing the clergy:
“I must needs judge the fault and occasion of this discord to be partly by the negligence of you, the fathers, and preachers of the spirituality… I see and hear daily, that you of the clergy preach one against another, teach, one contrary to another, inveigh one against another, without charity or discretion. Some be too stiff in their old mumpsimus, other be too busy and curious in their new sumpsimus. Thus, all men almost be in variety and discord, and few or none do preach, truly and sincerely, the word of God, according as they ought to do. Shall I now judge you charitable persons doing this? No, no; I cannot so do. Alas! How can the poor souls live in concord, when you, preachers, sow amongst them, in your sermons, debate and discord? Of you they look for light, and you bring them to darkness. Amend these crimes, I exhort you, and set forth God’s word, both by true preaching, and good example-giving, or else I, whom God hath appointed his vicar, and high minister here, will see these divisions extinct, and these enormities corrected, according to my very duty, or else I am an unprofitable servant, and an untrue officer.”
He concluded by imploring them all to remember the true meaning of what religious word was aimed at and what it should achieve, he asked for all to treat each other like brothers, putting their differences to one side:
The speech that Henry VIII spoke of was used to talk of spiritual notion and how saying one thing but doing another is a falsification of one’s aim. He was a man who put over in that speech how he felt people should be with one another.
This was Henry VIII’s last appearance before Parliament, although he did not pass on until January 1547.
It is interesting that two men were noted in spirit, one for an anniversary to a birth date for a man who went on to write many speeches and one for an anniversary of a speech he had been part of, both men were linked through research in doing something which through important speeches and wording shaped ideals of people on a family, social and societal scale. It was through these men’s work that cultures were formed and ideas were acted on so as to improve the conditions of lives.
- Dodd’s Church History of England from the Commencement of the Sixteenth Century to the Revolution in 1688, Charles Dodd (1839)
- The Last Days of Henry VIII, Robert Hutchinson, Chapter 7
- Pics are of Fredrich Engels and Henry VIII. Pics are taken from online encyclopaedia.
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